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I keep running into many little things that remind me I'm not where I used to be. Some of these may be north vs south, some may be small town vs cityish, some may be as simple as my old job vs my new job, some may just be me being a bit out of synch, as I so often am. But all that's really a subject for another post - that's not really what I meant to be gong on about here.
In the final few minutes before I left work today, one of the friendlier women there was chattering on about how she needed to have lower standards so she could find herself a man. She wants, quite seriously, someone over 6', "manly" (which she translated for me as aggressive), an engineer (though I suspect she'd settle for anyone with what she considers an equivalent high income), childless, 27-33 years old, and a pile of other things that escape me now. I was mostly just smiling and making amused comments and trying not to sound TOO amused. I mentioned I had a tall boyfriend myself, though that hadn't been one of my requirements. She babbled happily on for a few minutes, then suddenly asked me when I was getting married.
Um, I'm not. I told her this, and you would have thought I had told her I butcher babies for a hobby. She did try to be tactful, I'll give her points for that, but she honestly couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. When I asked her why I should, and added that I didn't want kids, so that wasn't a consideration, she was (momentarily!) speechless. I was saved by a last minute incoming call, but her explicitly repeated point was that if I was "fulfilling the role of a wife" (nice euphemism) then why ever wasn't I getting married and having kids? Was something WRONG?
Yep, this is the bible belt. I know it, and mostly overlook it. Many of my coworkers have biblical quotations up on their cubes, and I've deflected a few inquiries on religion. (In fairness, I was doing that back in NH anyhow, because that's one of the topics I find almost never stays a discussion - it degenerates into an argument.) On the other hand, I know more pagans here than I did there, and at least as many poly folks.
I guess my original point - I did have one! - was to wonder how many other people, wherever they are, have run into the default expectation of marriage and kids, and similar horrified what's-wrong-with-you reactions if they weren't interested? Is it regional thing? A generational thing? Just me?

Haven't found a link yet but ...

Date: 2002-08-15 06:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] the-magician.livejournal.com
I recall in the 80's being told that the US averages were 5'4" for women and 5'8" for men (and don't forget to allow for the large number of non-whites in the US, since they, on average, tend to be shorter than Europeans, particulary the asians ... though the number of tall asians is (sorry!) "growing" as new generations get higher protien diets and better medical care). But of course the "black" Americans tend to be taller (on average) and I can't find a decent site on the web (in half an hour of searching) with proper accessible figures ...

One weight/height site I just looked at (for correct body weight for height) had women devided into 5'2" and below, 5'2" to 5'5" and above 5'5", so that sounds like a confirmation of the approximate ranges. http://www.iowaclinic.com/adam/ency/article/001938.shtml

I've found that the Japanese stats are 5'5.2" for males and 5'0.2" for females, and only 0.02% of Japanese women are 5'7" or taller.

Found a page that says (with citations!) http://www.plimoth.org/Library/l-short.htm
"A study published in Britain in 1988, using data compiled from 1981, determined that the average height in the modern British population was 173.8 cm. [67.78 inches or 5’ 7 ¾"] for males and 160.9 cm. [62.75 inches or 5’ 2 ¾"] for females. For modern white Americans, the average stature for males is 69.1", or just over 5’ 9", and for women, 63.7", or about 5’ 3 ¾".

Note that the American stat was for WHITE Americans (my emphasis).



Re: Haven't found a link yet but ...

Date: 2002-08-15 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
Here's one:

http://www.wonderquest.com/size-women-us.htm (http://www.wonderquest.com/size-women-us.htm)

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